Grateful Dead Live at Greek Theatre - University of California on 1984-07-13
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Greatest Story Ever Told
C C Rider
Dupree's Diamond Blues
Hell In A Bucket ->
Might As Well
Scarlet Begonias ->
Touch Of Grey ->
Fire On The Mountain ->
Man Smart (Woman Smarter) ->
The Wheel ->
I Need A Miracle ->
Stella Blue ->
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|Greatest Story Ever Told|
|Dupree's Diamond Blues|
|Hell in a Bucket >|
|Might as Well|
|Scarlet Begonias >|
|Touch of Grey >|
|Fire on the Mountain >|
|Man Smart, Woman Smarter >|
|The Wheel > I Need a Miracle >|
|Stella Blue >|
Speed corrected using Cool Edit Pro:
- joined wavs using 'Open Append'
- speed/pitch adjusted using 'Pitch Bender'
The proper pitch was determined by comparing to a guitar tuned to A=440.
d1 through d3t04 adjusted -23 cents
encore d3t05 adjusted +67 cents
The whole show needed the same adjustment, *except for the encore*. The encore looks like the same source as the rest, but the pitch is clearly different. The -23 cents correction doesn't bring it in tune like the rest of the show. A -33 cents correction does bring it into tune, but then Dark Star is in the key of Ab, while it's always played in A. I highly doubt they actually played it in Ab, and Jerry sounds awfully sluggish. With this in mind, I found that raising the pitch +67 cents brought it into A, and Jerry sounds normal again.
My guess (just a guess), is that the encore was transferred from a DAT at a different time than the rest of the show, or using different equipment or settings, and a 48khz > 44.1khz conversion was not done properly, introducing the new pitch problem for the encore. I'm fairly certain that it is correct now though.
- 2008-03-09 19:21:30
- SHN id=353 > WAV > Cool Edit Pro (see notes) > FLAC(8)
- Berkeley, CA
- SBD > ? > CDR
- Transferred by
- Speed Correction by joshd
Subject: Paraskevidekatriaphobia and the Delta Aquariids
This show has been rec'd to me a few times (mainly for the Dark Star). It is known for a fine Stella, Scar>Fire with a Touch tweener, and of course the first Dark Star since 1/1/81 - as an encore. The terrible mix makes this show mostly a wash (it was a mess FOH, too, as you can tell on the AUDs). The second set is one to listen to if you ever wondered what the Dead would be like as a one-guitar power trio. Healy completely turned off Bobby's guitar and even his vox in some songs, so you get a show featuring Jer guitar, Jer vox, Brent, and the drummers (who play okay but sound terrible). This is a band with no qualms about stopping a show for 10mins to fix sound, so either Healy did this intentionally or was gapping. That said, there are some fine moments.
First Set. This is a speedy set. Even with the mix issues you can dig how this Bertha takes off with studied intent. Greatest Story whips up unexpectedly, tempest stylee. The truncated Dire Wolf is presented as a trifle. However, See, See Rider Blues is solid, ramping up for an X factor Loser. The mix is better here - especially on the MTX. Cassidy is solid and Dupree's has some nice sections. Like much of the set these aren't ace versions, but GOGD. Hellina was played a lot in '84, as they had got a handle on it - though not necessarily this night. Still, it's kinda nice at this tempo, and check Phil.
Second Set. You can hear Mickey[?] ask "It's Touch of Graham, Scarlet Be Gone Yas first?". Rather than improving from the first set, the mix is disastrous, completely missing Bobby's guitar, most of Phil, and now one of the drummers. You mostly get Jer vox and Brent keys. The AUDs are a little better, without the overriding keys but still missing two members (a faint Bobby starts after 7mins). Because front of house was the same, either Bobby was having difficulties or he and Healy were having one of their fights. Bobby's mic comes up at the final verses. Too bad; the playing seems nice, but we'll never know for sure. I've been to concerts where the soundman just said "oh well fuck it", but usually because it's a band with a presentation that disallows stop-and-tune, and always a club show. This was the 2nd time they stuck a Touch inside a Scar>Fire [7/3 KC], having played a Scar>Touch into a Dewiminna, an Estimated, and a Fantasy. Bobby's playing on Touch is very faint, appearing here and there, but only if you squint (probably when his monitor's leaking). His vox are also appearing and Phil is finally heard now. However the seg-in is not good this night (this time it's the cat that has not been fed in years). Rhythm guitar finally starts to appear in the mix faintly for Fire, as well as both drummers, faintly, late in the song. A slight improvement also occurs during Dewimmina (though it's still a mess). Et voila! When Drums starts the second drummer finally appears in the mix. Space is a good, rushing vacuum. By The Wheel the only thing missing from this show is Bobby's guitar; for Miracle you can hear it on the AUD. The mix is the best it's been all night for a fine Stella, with rhythm guitar appearing after 6 min. The digital delay Jer uses was new tech at the time. Because Bobby's guitar HAS to be there on Sugar Mag, Healy turns him back on. Uniquely, the whole point of this show is the encore. This is the last Dark Star until 10/9/89. Phil comes out [heard on AUD] and announces "something special" and people immediately suss the thrill. The mix is acceptable, but still focuses on keys, sans rhythm. This is a must-hear because it doesn't sound like '81 or '89. I especially like 8:00>11:00. The MTX is more exciting than just the SBD, (or the 1st min of the AUD, which was additionally amped by meteors). There are encore Dark Stars at shows by Jerry & Friends and by Mickey & the Hartbeats, but not when billed as Grateful Dead - though there are lots of tapes missing from '68-'69.
1st Set: B-
2nd Set: C-
Overall = 2¾ stars
Loser - piquant
Dark Star - one of a kind, with a couple great sections
SOURCES: The SBDs mostly have a terrible mix and some AUDs are more listenable. The best first set is the Seamons matrix (seamons_105570). It pulls out Phil and fixes the cardboard drums, smoothing the very rough mix of the set. But some tunings are edited and you need to EQ to get the best results. The first few songs of the second set are so poor on the SBD that you need to go to the AUDs, and the best is the ecm150_keeler_miller_noel. The best of the rest of the 2nd set is ferguson_joshd_fix-353_90464. It is the pitch-corrected SBD, but still chops up the tunings and has a 10sec gap at the beginning of Space. The 139747_sbd_pcm_miller is the first half of the second set in a poor mix.
Subject: Scarlet Begonias (Jam)
Subject: 5 star for Dark Star
Subject: scarlet>touch> fire
Subject: As Burnt Rich says
Subject: 3000 shows in 10yr & 8 months...NOT!
That is total BS!! That would be an average of almost 300 shows a year! Something is dreadfully wrong with your math. Maybe 500-600 shows at most. Jerry would have dropped dead at that rate a long time ago. But they did only play it twice.
Subject: Dark Star?
Subject: Unique Show
Only Dark Star from 12/31/81-10/9/89
For the first 10 yrs 8 mos Brent was in the band, they played nearly 3000 shows - and played Dark Star twice.
I like this DS - while other reviewers have criticized I think it IS tripped out, in its own mid 80's, speedball-tweaked way...
Subject: Tweak -n- Greek